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February 12, 2007

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it's very nice to take care our environment and also its very nice if it is properly implemented to achieve sustainability and development...but the question is specially applying it to the developing country, "can it be properly accounted to the people?" the most problem in developing country is that most people are uneducated and it is hard to implement as such policy or program..towards the commitment of the project in the long run process..this is earl..

The problem with the idea can environmental protection can be a money maker is that the benefits of environmental protection are ultimately public goods. Their value can't be extracted so a cleaner environment can't be profitable.

My undergrad adviser is a pioneer in CBA for urban ecosystem services. The original idea was to assign a valuation in order to educate the folk about what was being lost. IMHO, I agree with John/Tim that the implicit things have gone too far. IOW: there are limits to the utility of virnmintul CBA.

Best,

D

Prices, in neoclassical economics, are essentially derivatives. They are marginal values. When you start to get to economy-sized numbers, aggregating total costs becomes epistemologically sketchy. (I would assert that even talking about the federal debt is a bit meaningless, but that's not low-hanging fruit for my point, so you should probably just ignore this parenthetical.)

In any case, some meaning can be attached to a large-scale number if we have a way of comparing one thing to another. It's no longer actually a derivative; we're acknowledging a finite change, and some nonlinearity. It's still an affine space, though; if we're going to talk about the "benefit" provided by the environment, we have to be comparing it to a benchmark of some kind. "Smouldering cinder" seems a popular benchmark, but, unless there are some gung-ho smouldering-cinder--advocates out there, I'm not sure it's a meaningful one. If we're looking to trade off "big hunk of change in environmental condition" versus "big change in man-made lucre", we can construct numbers based on differences between alternatives that are actually on the table (or, at least, we can try). If we're trying to use price to do something else meaningful -- something that isn't "make a desperate plea for attention" -- we may actually have to try to understand the question we're trying to answer, and look for an answer that's appropriate to the question.

Big values do not raise the environmental consciousness so much as they lower credibility. The reason $33 trillion per year intuitively seems bogus is because it is.

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