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There is a major problem with the BCA of when to drill in ANWR that we are forgetting...If we start drilling tomorrow..the first drop does NOT hit the market for at least 9 years. And, nine years is a best guess from a friend of mine in the industry - not from the Sierra Club. How does it change the analysis if we include a 9 year delay???

JC

Good point. Trigger prices rise by about $4 when the net market benefits of oil start coming in after 10 years of setup. When WTP* is between $2-$3 the trigger price is about $24.50. When WTP* is $35 the trigger price is $57. When the trigger price is $60, WTP* must be $38 to make preservation the recommended option.

If I understand correctly the formula and your are summing B over the 65 years, shouldn't your raise the (1+r) to the power of the year?

Also, the results depend *greatly* on the discount rate.

To quote wikipedia: "One of the major issues in economics is what is an appropriate discount rate to use under various circumstances. For example, in assessing the impact of very long-term phenomena such as climate change, use of any discount rate much more than 1% per annum renders long-term damage (occurring in, say, 200 years time) of negligible importance now, and therefore entails (implausibly) that there is no need to take preventative action."

This is sort of off the main point of the discussion, but;

1962-1973 low oil and gasoline prices, 11 years
1973-1986 high oil and gasoline prices, 13 years
1986-1999 low oil and gasoline prices, 13 years
1999-2012?? high oil and gasoline prices,13??years??

I was told by several Shell Oil people that Shell bought their oil leases, did the sismic survey, drilled, constructed the production facilities, mostly when the price of oil was low!!! It is my understanding that the fastest time to bring a field on line is five years. But, few oil companies have done this, in this short of time. Generaly speaking, 9 years would be about right.

When the price of oil is low, you can do some of the work for about 25 % of the cost in the peak oil price years. So, it takes you 9+ years to bring a field on line, But you do start out with a relatively low production rate,which will increase (with more drilling) in the comming years.

To me, it makes economical sence to start all this in the low oil price years because you are almost right in time the reap the high oil prices, WITH 25% of some of the cost.

This indicates to me, that it is the bean counters that are running the oil companies. Generaly, the bean counters don't have a good comprehension of their industries histories. (Just like the economists who lead us into the economical crash of 2000.)

The price of oil will probably crash around the year 2012. (1999 + 13 = 2012) Or when the next economical crash comes sometime after 2009. Just follow the 13 year business cycle.

that's some powerful math ;-), way beyond me:

"B = Σ [[(P - MEC) × Q] ÷ (1 + r)] - K"

... but i'm afraid the equation really used in congress is much simpler:

"who will give me campaign contributions?"

Why should only Americans be computed in the loss of amenity from the ANWR drilling ?

If drilling permits where auctioned, and environmentalist organizations were permitted to bid, I suspect that many Europeans like me would be glad to contribute say 10-20 $ to save the ANWR.

Stefano,

"If drilling permits where auctioned"

They are auctioned, but they call them "leases". If you win the "bid" on an oil field lease, it comes with a time limit and a contract. Usualy the lease is for 5 years. But, to keep that lease longer that that time, you must do X amount of sismic survey, X amount of exploration "drilling"/wells, roads, cleanup, etc. Then, if you find enough oil to make it economical to produce that oil, there are other clauses in the contract.

So, if an enviermental group wanted to buy a lease, and do nothing with it, it would only be for X-5 years. When you don't fullfill the other clauses of the contract, the oil lease reverts back to the original owner.

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